More seats (05/18/06)
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 Here’s what some readers think of the seats in TTC vehicles. Jim Murphy of Toronto writes, “I have been riding the bus, streetcar, subway and RT on and off for 34 years. My experience with back pain led me to sit exclusively in the front/back facing seats due to the jostling nature of the rush hour commute on both the bus and subway trains.

 He adds, “Most men's shoulders are wider than the width of the current seats. If you had men exclusively sitting sideways you could have a strange domino effect with the last person ending up on their side.”

 Erik Nippak of Toronto points out the dimensions of TTC seats are appropriate in summer but “as soon as it gets colder and commuters are wearing overcoats, ALL the seating on the TTC is unbearable. The seats are simply too narrow for over half the year.”

 Grethe Lund of Toronto writes, “As far as the fabric on the seats goes, I find that it usually is so stained that you're worried about it rubbing off on your clothes, as you aren't sure how new/old those stains are.

 “Facing forward or back is my personal preference; in that way you don't have to ‘face’ the people across the aisle ... or if the bus/subway is crowded, you're not as likely to have your toes stepped on.”

 Daniel Saraga of Toronto disagreed with my take on trains equipped only with sideways-facing seats. “New York City's subway system is first-class. Their sideways-only-seat cars are very easy to navigate through -- even when crowded. Lots of stainless steel and no fabric on the seats at all. Those NYC subway cars can practically be hosed down from the inside. It's that easy. A spilled triple-latte sops up in seconds using the morning copy of USA Today, and the seat is ready to use again.

 “We couldn't do the same with a Tim Horton's Iced Cappuccino on a fabric T-1 seat. It would be out of commission for the rest of the morning.

 “Maybe a tear- and puncture-resistant vinyl can be used for padded seats in the future, however, I don't see that happening anytime soon. The days are numbered for the few remaining padded seats only found on the Bloor-Danforth line.

 He adds, “Your comment about ‘the first seats taken are often the ones facing forward or back’ is a bit (off). The ‘outside’ seat of the forward/back-facing seats may be preferred. The inside seat -- the cramped, locked-in, least-accessible corner -- is usually the last one to go.”

 What I was suggesting in last week’s column is that when riders enter an empty train, they often gravitate to the most 'surrounded' seat possible -- one next to a wall, preferably facing forward or back. In the middle of a line, when things are busier, riders may opt for the seats that are easier to access.

 By early June, riders will be able to tour and critique the TTC’s proposed layout for new subway cars.

© Ed Drass 2008